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ULI Poland Product Councils Day - Spring 2025
Another great day of insightful discussions and presentations in 4 topics for ULI members.
April 23, 2025
Marty McFly climbs back into his DeLorean, but rather than dial back to the 1950s he sets the date ten years hence to 2035. The first keynote speaker certainly put his foot down on the gas at the ULI Poland Conference BACK TO THE FUTURE and it was 88 mph all the way.
Søren Rodian Olsen, Managing Director if Logicenters Poland at Nrep, ULI Poland ExCo member and Conference’s MC
The event opened with remarks from Søren Rodian Olsen, Managing Director of Logicenters Poland at Nrep and master of ceremonies of the conference. He reminded the audience that the ’80s were full of cinematic visions of what lay ahead: futuristic cities, AI-powered robots, brave underdogs taking on powerful empires. “All these kinds of things seem to come back today,” he noted. But the true meaning of the conference theme, he said, lies in its deeper message: changing what was done in the past to make the future better. “We’re here to talk about the past and the present in Poland – and most importantly, about the future,” Olsen concluded, setting the tone for a day of forward-looking conversation.
Marcin Piątkowski, an economics professor at the Kozminski University in Warsaw and Program Leader at the World Economic Bank
A Golden Age
“Poland will not stop growing anytime soon,” declared Marcin Piątkowski, an economics professor at the Kozminski University in Warsaw and Program Leader at the World Economic Bank. Piątkowski went on to state that Poland has increased its average wages by 250% over the last 33 years, growing faster than Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan. “Poland is a much better blueprint of development to emulate than everyone else,” he said. Other countries know what they must do to become rich, but few have the political will to do so. However, it was not all blue skies and sunshine that he could see. Poland is clearly catching up with countries like Germany, but there is no political vision of what to do next and unless it finds one “in 2030, Poland will be like Spain but with less sun.” he bemoaned but then admitted that even that was not such a bad prospect. Overall, he set the mood for the conference when he said, “If this is not a golden age, I don’t know what is.”
Grzegorz Sielewicz, the head of economic and market insights at Colliers
Next, Grzegorz Sielewicz, the head of economic and market insights at Colliers set the stage for the next panel with the current economic outlook. Unsurprisingly, he had much to say about the recently declared US tariffs and the economic instability they cause. Nonetheless, he was not about to tell us about impending doom and gloom. Indeed, Sielewicz was to announce that the Polish economy was first in Europe whose Purchasing Manager’s Index had climbed over 50, officially marking a period of recovery from the pandemic- although, he did admit that this could be partially down to the rush to export goods to the US before tariffs were to hit. He also bemoaned the high price of energy, a point that had also been made by Marcin Piątkowski who had called on Poland to build five nuclear power plants instead of just the one currently planned. With inflation below 5%, he believes that interest rates are ready to be cut. Despite everything, Sielewicz remained optimistic, though warned that Germany’s flat GDP growth was cause for concern, since it is Poland’s biggest trading partner accounting for 27% of exports.
From the left: Dorota Wysokinska-Kuzdra (Colliers), Maciej Dyjas (Griffin Capital Partners), Doris Pittlinger (Newport/Panattoni logistics fund), Josef Malir (Star Capital Finance), Emil Holmström (Eastnine)
Buying in times of uncertainty
This presentation served as an introduction to the first panel discussion of the day on the state of the investment market. It was moderated by Dorota Wysokińska-Kuzdra, a senior partner at Colliers, who described Europe as a “safe bet” for international capital in a world of uncertainty. Maciej Dyjas, managing partner of Griffin Capital Partners poured cold water on the proceedings by pointing out that global investors “don’t want to invest anywhere in anything.” and that for “the next two quarters they will be very cautious.” Emil Holmstrom, chief investment officer of Eastnine also remarked on the market’s instability saying that “uncertainty has returned,” but also adding, “we think it is a good time to be on the buy side.”
Doris Pittlinger, advisor to Newport/Panattoni Funds asked the question, “Will we see a new world order?” Pessimistically, she doesn’t expect huge international capital flows for two to three years. She pointed out that the US had backed down from the worst of the tariffs due to the economic damage wrought back home remarking that “In Germany, we say you shouldn’t eat it as hot as you cook it.” However, Josef Malíř, MD of Star Capital Finance, seemed far more upbeat. “Czechs like Central Europe,” he explained “If Western Europe won’t fill the hole Czechs will be happy to fill the gap,” he added although he also did admit, “I am paid to be an optimist.”
Brad Dockser, co-founder and CEO of Green Generation
The risks of climate change
After the coffee break, the next speaker to take to the stage was Bradford Dockser, the co-founder and CEO of Green Generation. He stressed that the choice between profit and sustainability was a false dichotomy. Although sustainability may have upfront costs, such assets are more desirable and have lower running costs. Many companies, he said, were decarbonising out of greed. He also pointed to a major problem in the US, which is that insurers are upping their prices and beginning to move out of areas where climate risk is too big and he pointed out that the area prone to wildfires has now grown immensely. With no insurance, homebuyers will be forced to pay with cash as the banks will not lend out mortgages. The move towards sustainability was inevitable, he said.
Sophie Chick (ULI Europe), Brad Dockser (Green Generation)
He was followed up on the stage by Sophie Chick, vice president of ESG Programmes at ULI Europe. She pointed out that 77% of investors agree that ESG impacts real estate pricing and that 76% believe that current valuations do not reflect climate change. Moreover 94% stated that transition risks have factored in their decisions. She talked of a carbon mispricing bubble with ecologically-savvy investors divesting assets at inflated prices to investors with less knowledge and she mentioned the need for tools to level the playing field, such as the Preserve tool she advocated. At this point, Bradford Dockser returned to the stage. One of his first comments was now that most people had moved beyond the term ESG, stating that these were all complex issues that had been bundled together and were best dealt with separately. He also stated that despite the US federal government’s attempts to reverse all environmental rules, it could not and that such regulations are being introduced in the US on the state and municipal level, with cities even applying punitive fines.
The final panel before lunch was on the quest for green power. The moderator, Zuzanna Paciorkiewicz, partner at Cushman & Wakefield declared that, as an emerging trend in real estate, energy infrastructure seems to be as sexy as data centres. Tomoho Umeda, founder of Hynfra and Hynfra Energy Storage pointed out that the Ministry of Digitalisation has planned 10 GW for the use of data centres in Poland, but he believed this was too conservative and that data centres would probably have to be powered by solutions that were separate from the grid. Piotr Beaupré, CEO of Neo Energy Group pointed out that the Polish presidential elections had resulted in political paralysis. Because no one knows who the next president will be, no progress could be made on important issues such as reform to the laws dictating where wind turbines can be erected.
From the left: Zuzanna Paciorkiewcz (Cushman & Wakefield), Tomoho Umeda (Hynfra), Piotr Beaupré (Neo Energy Group), Tomasz Mrowczyk (Griffin Capital Partners), Anna Chmielewska (EBRD)
Anna Chmielewska, associate director at EBRD, pointed out that data centres will be built in Poland despite electricity prices because of geopolitical and cyber security reasons. She mentioned that large amounts of EU money were being poured into strengthening the grid, but the challenge was to use this money to accommodate non-traditional forms of power generation. Tomasz Mrowczyk, co-managinf partner of Griffin Capital Partners, stated that his firm had invested in wind and solar energy, but he pointed out that the electricity generating business was different from the real estate business, because you couldn’t lease out a facility for 30 years. As an asset land was not an issue, but the bigger problem was access to the grid. But Griffin is bullish and sees opportunities to invest throughout the sector. However, electricity prices on the open market are highly volatile changing every 15 minutes, so if investors wish to avoid risk, they need to contractually sign up a customer.
Again the discussion topic turned to nuclear power, which had been raised in the first presentation of the conference. Zuzanna Paciorkiewicz pointed out that it takes 15 years to build such a power plant, but the rise in demand for power from AI was growing far faster while at present there are no opportunities for private investment in such facilities.
Andrei Martin, Partner at PLP Architecture
In the midst of a revolution
The topic of data centres and AI was then renewed in the next presentation by Andrei Martin, partner of PLP Architecture. He made the point that right now we are in the middle of an AI revolution, which will change the way we work bringing with it immense disruption. By 2030, 70% of skills will change and 50% of workers will need to be reskilled and change jobs. He predicted 800 mln jobs would be displaced with an overall increase in employment of 5%. He went on to showcase many of the PLP studio’s buildings and later went on to talk about the WLA AI Laboratory in Shanghai. This state of the art building was no data centre since it was designed for research into AI as it transformed from machine learning, which is intermediated by people, to deep learning, where computers learn from nothing more than data itself.
Signe Kongebro, Global Director of Future Resilient Design at Ramboll
After lunch, another architect took to the stage – Signe Kongebro, global director of Future Resilient Design at Ramboll. “Cities are where the climate battle is to be lost and won,” she declared, setting the tone for a presentation that looked boldly into the future of urban development. For Kongebro, cities are not just population centres – they are living ecosystems that must be reimagined to meet the urgent demands of climate resilience and social cohesion.
Drawing on the example of Copenhagen, she explained how the city had successfully reinvented itself, transforming its once-industrial docks into thriving, liveable neighbourhoods. She underscored the importance of green infrastructure – not just in visual terms, but in biodiversity outcomes. “Lilacs may be beautiful,” she said, “but they offer little to urban biodiversity. Planting oaks and other native species can do far more.”
She stressed the need to make a new pact with nature, where urban planning actively supports ecological systems rather than replacing them.
Kongebro argued that thoughtful urban design can be a powerful tool for both environmental regeneration and community building. Placemaking, she noted, isn’t just about aesthetics or amenities – it’s about creating spaces where people feel connected, safe, and engaged. And beyond the social and ecological benefits, there is also a financial argument: “Well-designed, resilient places are profitable,” she concluded, “because people want to be there – and stay there.”
Living longer through urban development
She stayed on the stage for the next panel on urban development which was moderated by Jack Renteria, CEO, Generation Global and the chair of ULI Denmark. He praised the previous presentation as “one of the freshest I have seen in a very, very long time.” Whitney Austen Gray, senior vice president of Research at International WELL Building Institute pointed out how life expectancy in Poland was 77 years. This is five years more than in Russia, but five years less than in Germany. Human longevity is seriously impacted by healthy environments. “Health is the one thing you can’t live without,” she said and added, “it is critical that health is a part of your project.” Sebastian Kieć, CEO of AFI Poland talked of the Towarowa 22 project in Warsaw, which is being developed in a joint venture with Echo Investment and Archicom. He declared that it “will be one of the most beautiful parts of the city.”
From the left: Jack Renteria (Generation Global), Whitney Austen Gray (WELL Building Institute), Marta Sękulska-Wrońska (WXCA), Sebastian Kieć (AFI Poland), Signe Kongebro (Ramboll)
The project had to wait for a masterplan for over ten years and originally it was to have been a mall, however now the concept has transmuted into a mixed-use project with offices, retail and apartments.
Marta Sękulska-Wrońska, CEO of WXCA architectural studio pointed out that any sites in the middle of cities are in need of renewal. “We need someone in the municipalities to talk to in order to proceed with all these fantastic investments,” she said, asserting that “livable likeable places attract investors.” She also pointed out that these are the places where people want to live. Izabela Szostek-Smith, deputy director of the infrastructure department for the city of Warsaw, commented that, “We create cities for our people and they are at the heart of every single community. We create the society with the buildings that we build.”
Soren Rodian Olsen, brought not only brilliant and insightful moderation to the ULI Poland 2025 conference, but also a sense of humour and energy. At one point, he had the entire audience stand up and stretch, cleverly framing it as a vote on the Chelsea–Legia match: “If you believe Chelsea will win, raise your right hand… stretch it… good! And if you’re not into football at all – left hand!”
Łukasz Platkowski, managing director at Gensler Berlin
Moments later, he handed the floor to Łukasz Platkowski, managing director at Gensler Berlin. He joked that by moving to Berlin from Warsaw he had extended his life by five years. He pointed out that offices could be converted from offices to offices. “Sometimes we’re not converting offices into housing or hotels – were simply reinventing offices to meet today’s expectations. Its about transforming outdated layouts, upgrading systems, and creating spaces that support hybrid work, well-being, and sustainability. In that sense, yes – were doing conversions from office to office.” – he said.
He added that offices could also be converted into apartments. Old retail centres could be converted into cultural destinations where people want to go. Logistics centres were also being converted to film studios. Often office conversions to apartments are prevented because not every building is suitable and hiring the consultants to find out may be expensive. Gensler has created a tool to quickly assess if such a conversion can be carried out and nine out of ten buildings can be. He finished off his presentation by quoting Abraham Lincoln: “The best way to predict the future is to create it.”
Marcin Petrykowski, CEO of Efigence
Still in the midst of a revolution
The final presentation was by Marcin Petrykowski, CEO of Efigence. He argued that revolution was changing everything. In a digital world everyone can see what everyone is doing so businesses face more risks as they will face criticism for everything that they do wrong. Now companies need to please everyone. One example is Adidas, who decided to liquidate EUR 1 bln in stock to distance itself from Kanje West who had posted antisemitic remarks. Petrykowski stated that funds like Blackrock are now being led by their investors. Moreover youth is now moving to an assetless model. They no longer own apartments or cars, because these things can be provided as a service. He went onto state that technology no longer provided competitive advantage. Competitive advantage now comes from how technology is used, which is why AI is a game-changer.
Marcin Juszczyk, ULI Poland Chair
With the end of the conference, the world seemed far more dicey than it had ever been before but it also appeared to be a more exciting place filled with hitherto unimagined opportunities.
In closing, Marcin Juszczyk, ULI Poland Chair expressed sincere thanks to all distinguished guests, speakers, and participants – both local and international – for sharing their valuable and diverse perspectives and stated that “I am quite confident that with our army of Jedis from ULI, we have the intelectual power and the courage to make the world a better place for new generations.”
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